Question about trading - Guild Wars Forums

Beramee · Jun 30, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

I was selling an item for 200k... I got offered 180k and took it.

So we decide that I would offer my item, and he would give me 100k and 5:1 vamp string as collateral. Then he would buy back the string for 80k. All good

So we do the 100k plus string exchange, then the guy says thx for trading... I say WTF.. you said you would buy back the string etc etc.. a few choice words i threw in though :P

So what can i do about this.. I took screenies of the convo etc.. can I report this guy?.. or am I just **** out of luck? cause this sux.. I didn't need trades.. I am getting rid of items for guild money etc.

Advice appreciated.

smitty-gw · Jun 30, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

What on God's good Earth where you trading for 200K?

The rip-off artist meets the scammer. Sounds like a match made in Heaven.

Orderless · Jun 30, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59

There should be a section with the title "cry babies".

All the time its never their fault.

Beramee DID you or DID you not assume a RISK when you made the trade that way? Of course you didnt! Nobody ever does. Next one of these I read im going to have to spam it with the definition of risk.

Other than that all I can tell you is YOU hit the ACCEPT button. What YOU deem as a fair is not universal............God I would hate to have the job of answering these peoples pleas for punishment everyday.

smitty-gw · Jun 30, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

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Originally Posted by Orderless

Beramee DID you or DID you not assume a RISK when you made the trade that way? Of course you didnt! Nobody ever does. Next one of these I read im going to have to spam it with the definition of risk.

Props to you Orderless. Here, I'll do it for you.

RISK: A factor, element or course involving uncertain danger; hazard.

Orderless · Jun 30, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Right on smitty. Sooner or later some of these fellas are going to learn that if you dont want to get burned you stay away from the fire.

For the record though I do not and never will support scammers, it just happens that not only do I lack support for "victims" (used real loosely here) I feel they are a bigger hazard to the game.

Spike · Jun 30, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

BTW smity I have found a sword recently which I have been told is worth between 150 and 250k so its quite possable Beramee had found something like that. So try thinking (if thats possable) before posting

smitty-gw · Jun 30, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Yes Spike, it is p-o-s-s-i-b-l-e to think before I post and I just did so.

If A-net had even the slightest inclination that any 1 item in their game would be worth more than 100K, would they limit the amount of gold one could carry?

I agree people are just plain dumb for paying those prices, so you can't blame the seller, but really now, do you expect sympathy for the seller?

The Destroyer · Jun 30, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

To the original poster...... You can sell that vamp string for 80k pretty easy in the later areas.

Calnaion Blackhawk · Jun 30, 2005, 06:36 PM // 18:36

even more boggling , how did someone GET 200k?
i mean, i struggle to get 10k never mind 200 lol

Sir Skullcrasher · Jun 30, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Its called Ebay and for 9 to 10 dollar,you can buy 120 k for your account.

Orderless · Jun 30, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46

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Originally Posted by Spike

BTW smity I have found a sword recently which I have been told is worth between 150 and 250k so its quite possable Beramee had found something like that. So try thinking (if thats possable) before posting

Mb you should try thinking? Here I will even give you something to think about.

Examples of legitimate grevinces would be hacking into a account and taking the money, stealing someones acct or spamming a lobby with racial slurs. Those are real abuses.

What you describe is childish I will explain this so even the kids will understand. To play guildwars YOU are NOT required to use TRADE. It is an extra feature. So you decide to use the trade and you assume a risk. you dont want want to work to get to droknar or find the item you want so YOU decide to take a easier route.

Now your asking the gw staff to wade through your petty little trade disputes and mediate them. What a crock. Imagine this you got a guy making 40k a year working on solving problems and his email is filling up with this drivel from little babies who think he should fix THEIR mistakes. Look here is the bottom line. YOU make it harder for people to do their jobs with your endless complaints about how you were wronged. Which you already know was because you assumed a risk and now expect them to hold someone liable.....Over what a couple grand of online fake money that you obviously didnt care enough about to becareful with.

You disgust me. I firmly believe that each and everyone of you that bog down the gw staff with this garbage should be flogged in public then made to sleep with the pigs for a few nights, then mb you can think of a ligitimate grip. Right now you got nothin but cry baby syndrome thats getting pretty old. I read these forums everyday in hopes to better my knowledge of the game and each day there is more and more babies on here diluting the content with your senseless drivel

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27

^^Interesting post, the topic creator probably can't think logically right now since he's so pissed off about the trade. And to the topic creator, you can sell the 5/1 bow upgrade for 80-100k easily in LA dis 1.

MCS · Jun 30, 2005, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by thesecondrei

^^Interesting post, the topic creator probably can't think logically right now since he's so pissed off about the trade. And to the topic creator, you can sell the 5/1 bow upgrade for 80-100k easily in LA dis 1.

lol.... OMFG HE SCAMMED YOU OUT OF -20K REPORT HIM!

Seriously mate you're getting more than 180k.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=21172

Btw don't trade with newbs, they lower your IQ.

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 08:27 PM // 20:27

^^I'm confused, you're talking as if I did the trade with him when I've never met the topic creator before.

MCS · Jun 30, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by thesecondrei

^^I'm confused, you're talking as if I did the trade with him when I've never met the topic creator before.

I forgot I quoted you to yell at you for breating me to pointing out that the string is worth at least 80k.

=HT=Ingram · Jun 30, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Stop being so greedy and charging more then a person can carry and bingo Gone is the problem. So help me god if Arenanet increases the gold limit in inventory to cater to these hoarding inflating bastards, Well I don't know what I would do. But I can imagine the worst terrorist impersionation I can think of. I know they will not though so I feel prety good about things.

when you ID an item and see the BASE value of those Items THAT is the value to base profits off of. in some of you peoples opinion some things seems fair to you to trade for 1500% profit. you people make me SICK.

thesecondrei · Jun 30, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by MCS

I forgot I quoted you to yell at you for breating me to pointing out that the string is worth at least 80k.

Ah I see...

MCS · Jun 30, 2005, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Stop being so greedy and charging more then a person can carry and bingo Gone is the problem. So help me god if Arenanet increases the gold limit in inventory to cater to these hoarding inflating bastards, Well I don't know what I would do. But I can imagine the worst terrorist impersionation I can think of. I know they will not though so I feel prety good about things.

when you ID an item and see the BASE value of those Items THAT is the value to base profits off of. in some of you peoples opinion some things seems fair to you to trade for 1500% profit. you people make me SICK.

God forbid we base value off of supply and demand.

Got a 20% sword pommel of enchanting? I'll gladly pay 375 for it.

=HT=Ingram · Jun 30, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04

no I don't but I have GIVEN away those to people both in and Out of my guild. This is EXACTLY why we need a NPC to handle that stuff so the maket is based on TRUE supply and demand, not on Inflation player vendors. the Rune Trader did that and suggestions are in play for the Weapons crafter as well. see here. . it took time but fair markets finally started coming in line, when people like myslef started dumpping runes on the market through the trader to keep the prices down. and Arenanet themselves have done this as well.

MCS · Jun 30, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I severly doubt you've given away 20% sword pommels of enchanting.

There is a collector that will give you an ascalon bow (short bow flight statistics) in mineral springs that has 15% damage while health is above 50% for like 5 mino horns or something.

People will still pay 500k for a short bow or halfmoon with this mod.

As long as people will pay it the price will not go down.

Jun 30, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23	#1
Beramee Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia Guild: ALCO Profession: R/Mo	Question about trading I was selling an item for 200k... I got offered 180k and took it. So we decide that I would offer my item, and he would give me 100k and 5:1 vamp string as collateral. Then he would buy back the string for 80k. All good So we do the 100k plus string exchange, then the guy says thx for trading... I say WTF.. you said you would buy back the string etc etc.. a few choice words i threw in though :P So what can i do about this.. I took screenies of the convo etc.. can I report this guy?.. or am I just **** out of luck? cause this sux.. I didn't need trades.. I am getting rid of items for guild money etc. Advice appreciated.

Jun 30, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53	#16
=HT=Ingram Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Anchorage Alaska Guild: Haz Team [HT] Profession: R/W	Stop being so greedy and charging more then a person can carry and bingo Gone is the problem. So help me god if Arenanet increases the gold limit in inventory to cater to these hoarding inflating bastards, Well I don't know what I would do. But I can imagine the worst terrorist impersionation I can think of. I know they will not though so I feel prety good about things. when you ID an item and see the BASE value of those Items THAT is the value to base profits off of. in some of you peoples opinion some things seems fair to you to trade for 1500% profit. you people make me SICK. Last edited by =HT=Ingram; Jun 30, 2005 at 08:57 PM // 20:57..

Jun 30, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#2
smitty-gw Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York	What on God's good Earth where you trading for 200K? The rip-off artist meets the scammer. Sounds like a match made in Heaven.

Jun 30, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59	#3
Orderless Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	There should be a section with the title "cry babies". All the time its never their fault. Beramee DID you or DID you not assume a RISK when you made the trade that way? Of course you didnt! Nobody ever does. Next one of these I read im going to have to spam it with the definition of risk. Other than that all I can tell you is YOU hit the ACCEPT button. What YOU deem as a fair is not universal............God I would hate to have the job of answering these peoples pleas for punishment everyday.

Jun 30, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45	#5
Orderless Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	Right on smitty. Sooner or later some of these fellas are going to learn that if you dont want to get burned you stay away from the fire. For the record though I do not and never will support scammers, it just happens that not only do I lack support for "victims" (used real loosely here) I feel they are a bigger hazard to the game.

Jun 30, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50	#6
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	BTW smity I have found a sword recently which I have been told is worth between 150 and 250k so its quite possable Beramee had found something like that. So try thinking (if thats possable) before posting

Jun 30, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#7
smitty-gw Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York	Yes Spike, it is p-o-s-s-i-b-l-e to think before I post and I just did so. If A-net had even the slightest inclination that any 1 item in their game would be worth more than 100K, would they limit the amount of gold one could carry? I agree people are just plain dumb for paying those prices, so you can't blame the seller, but really now, do you expect sympathy for the seller?

Jun 30, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50	#8
The Destroyer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005	To the original poster...... You can sell that vamp string for 80k pretty easy in the later areas.

Jun 30, 2005, 06:36 PM // 18:36	#9
Calnaion Blackhawk Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: England , Wiltshire Guild: [mB] Mental Block Profession: E/	even more boggling , how did someone GET 200k? i mean, i struggle to get 10k never mind 200 lol

Jun 30, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38	#10
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	Its called Ebay and for 9 to 10 dollar,you can buy 120 k for your account.

Jun 30, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27	#12
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	^^Interesting post, the topic creator probably can't think logically right now since he's so pissed off about the trade. And to the topic creator, you can sell the 5/1 bow upgrade for 80-100k easily in LA dis 1.

Jun 30, 2005, 08:27 PM // 20:27	#14
thesecondrei Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: Alliance of Xen [XoO] Profession: W/R	^^I'm confused, you're talking as if I did the trade with him when I've never met the topic creator before.

Jun 30, 2005, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#19
=HT=Ingram Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Anchorage Alaska Guild: Haz Team [HT] Profession: R/W	no I don't but I have GIVEN away those to people both in and Out of my guild. This is EXACTLY why we need a NPC to handle that stuff so the maket is based on TRUE supply and demand, not on Inflation player vendors. the Rune Trader did that and suggestions are in play for the Weapons crafter as well. see here. . it took time but fair markets finally started coming in line, when people like myslef started dumpping runes on the market through the trader to keep the prices down. and Arenanet themselves have done this as well.

Jun 30, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10	#20
MCS Banned Join Date: May 2005	I severly doubt you've given away 20% sword pommels of enchanting. There is a collector that will give you an ascalon bow (short bow flight statistics) in mineral springs that has 15% damage while health is above 50% for like 5 mino horns or something. People will still pay 500k for a short bow or halfmoon with this mod. As long as people will pay it the price will not go down.